Tuesday, November 29, 2005

Have a little free time

Before I depart avec a teddy bear>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

So I thought I'd come into blogger and write. Don't feel like sticking my head in a text book really and the papers can wait til later because I'll be off out soon. Thought the topic "Would you trust a man who described himself as a feminist" would do. Pinched off somewhere else naturally.

I've met a number who don't bring back feelings of affection when I think back but I have to say that I've met men who I'd definitely describe as being there for womens rights so could describe themselves as feminists if they wanted to.

Often the men I've known who are feminist don't bother with labels though, they just are. When men come out with sexist crap the guys I know will tell them that they don't do that kind of shit and to can it. Some have been found working in environments where they are working towards global equality.

None of them are saints, me neither (Gasp) but feel that there should be equality and don't like hearing the usual crap that you get to hear. They'll treat women as people rather than class "other" or objects.

I have met a number of extremely misogynistic men who have called themselves feminists. They've usually been involved in socialist politics and their words and actions don't quite match up. Well, rather reverse.

Stop with the power over shit head. Blah di blah ............................


I don't know how many people would actually claim the word feminist these days anyway, however strongly they felt about supporting the issue. It seems to have been warped beyond belief in the backlash. I suppose you just have to reclaim it really.

There are so many types of feminism too. I describe myself as a liberal/socialist feminist, though informed by on lines tests that I'm a radical feminist. Have also found out that my career of choice should've been a military commander .... but there you go!! It appears that it's just conceivably possible that they could be wrong. Or that I just haven't got the hang of these tests yet.

Does little vegan dance out of door and back again.

Have to say that some people weren't totally surprized by the second result but I think it's more to do with the fact that I'm interested in politics and human rights and I can be a good organiser at times.

Does vegan pirouette.

Feminists argue between themselves about what constitutes feminism and this has divided people so much. I believe in Sweden the feminist movement that began there in the 1990s lost a lot of its momentum through division. I didn't agree with a lot of the more radical theories that were put forward there.

Some people in feminism would take me to task for some of my views I'm sure. There's one topic that is a deal breaker for a number of people that just isn't for me. I'm sure it works the other way too. But I know how far I'm liberal before I see things cross a line that I'm not willing to support.

I suppose I can really only answer if I would trust men who describe themselves as feminists within my view of feminism and that's in the view that women are people who should have equality within society. I would want to find out where they are coming from before I made up my mind. I've met quite a few that I do and have trusted and haven't regretted it at all.

Where I was reading if I remember correctly, it wasn't a feminist board, there were a number of people who felt that you couldn't trust guys who described themselves as feminist. Some of the guys disagreed within my definition. The thread wound it's way off topic and there was quite a bit of wry humour.

I had to laugh when someone said that the board had once appeared anti feminist because of the women who used to post there and that had changed now. I think most, if not all the women, are still there, and they were so frightening that they used to post threads like where can I find pole dancing lessons. Really scary. One described herself as post feminist and made a point of saying that she believed in full equality for men and women.

I posted there a few times, was actually welcomed and received there very well, but left because of the anti feminist stance shown there by some of the posters. In the main part it really does seem to have changed.

One guy is radically different.

Wonder if he'd describe himself as a feminist.

He's certainly there somewhere along the line.