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Was reading one of the paranormal debunking sites last night and was interested to see that some of the debunking around cold reading was just as silly as people who stage it all. It's the first one I've read .. I've been on Richard Dawkins site .. but that is the nearest .. and I now bout some mediums" being caught faking it.
I've st through physical manifestation demonstration .. not that anything was manifested though we were told it was going to be .. much to my disappointment .. no ectoplasm floating around that night. All that happened was that she said that she was channelling her guides and she spoke in various accents and tones throughout the performance.
One of the guides seemed to get her relationship to the previous one totally wrong judging by what he had said. Though this could have been just part of his personality as he got quite a bit of the history of his times wrong too even when talking about things he'd been part of.
Last, but not least, it turned out that along with White Eagle Jesus was one of her guides. He had us guessing who he was for a while .. what a wag he was that night.
The guy next to me echoed my feelings at the end of the evening by saying that he wouldn't bother seeing her again and when I mentioned her a while later a friend said she was obviously a fake.
Thank heavens for that.
I was reading how someone similar .. who was manifesting as well as channelling was caught out when the lights somehow or other switched on for a couple of minutes then just as eerily switched themselves off again.
The only explanation I could think for that was that someone had been in the fuse cupboard and had pulled the main switch a couple of times to show what was happening though no one said they had which may have been a bit surprizing cause the guys explanation as to why he was partially free do do his special effects was eventually accepted.
Perhaps s/he just thought what they'd done was enough and when, against the odds, the explanation was accepted .. there was no point.
Maybe .. it was just one of those things though .. another piece of synchronicity or coincidence. Who knows .. ofcourse if no one had done it then there wouldn't be anyone to say anything about it.
I wassurprized though when reading this page supposedly debuning false psychics that a lot of the things mentioned did nothing of the ind such as giving information that had no relevance to anything that wassaid after it was given .. seemed to happen a lot .. why mention it if it wasn't relevant .. in some ways it would spoil the case the person was trying to make I think by putting any relevant info, if there was any which there didn't seem to be, amongst a load of information that wasn't so it'd get kind of lost there.
And going on saying that surely anyone trying to get through would be more specific .. well, you'd think so wouldn't you.
But .. maybe that is just the way it is.
Because that .. would give the game away .. apparently much the same as it is in science in some ways.
It is very confusing and this is why the little voice in my head will keep on going .. "surely not" when on another level I think that surely when something has been repeated often enough it'd be silly not to take notice and if in taking notice you realise that it'd be silly to reject things .. I mean really logically ...
I was reading a little bit in a book yesterday .. didn't buy it so I can't look it up .. but it was about things that scientists believed that couldn't be proven .. where someone said much the same .. if it keeps on happening you can't just dismiss it .. I'll add there comes a point where can seem more farcical to dismiss it than to go towards accepting it .. or, eventually, after a long while, accepting it on some level or other .. though still wishing that it can be proven .. when maybe there isn't a way that it can except theoretically after a long time and many happenings.
I just don't know.
I've st through physical manifestation demonstration .. not that anything was manifested though we were told it was going to be .. much to my disappointment .. no ectoplasm floating around that night. All that happened was that she said that she was channelling her guides and she spoke in various accents and tones throughout the performance.
One of the guides seemed to get her relationship to the previous one totally wrong judging by what he had said. Though this could have been just part of his personality as he got quite a bit of the history of his times wrong too even when talking about things he'd been part of.
Last, but not least, it turned out that along with White Eagle Jesus was one of her guides. He had us guessing who he was for a while .. what a wag he was that night.
The guy next to me echoed my feelings at the end of the evening by saying that he wouldn't bother seeing her again and when I mentioned her a while later a friend said she was obviously a fake.
Thank heavens for that.
I was reading how someone similar .. who was manifesting as well as channelling was caught out when the lights somehow or other switched on for a couple of minutes then just as eerily switched themselves off again.
The only explanation I could think for that was that someone had been in the fuse cupboard and had pulled the main switch a couple of times to show what was happening though no one said they had which may have been a bit surprizing cause the guys explanation as to why he was partially free do do his special effects was eventually accepted.
Perhaps s/he just thought what they'd done was enough and when, against the odds, the explanation was accepted .. there was no point.
Maybe .. it was just one of those things though .. another piece of synchronicity or coincidence. Who knows .. ofcourse if no one had done it then there wouldn't be anyone to say anything about it.
I wassurprized though when reading this page supposedly debuning false psychics that a lot of the things mentioned did nothing of the ind such as giving information that had no relevance to anything that wassaid after it was given .. seemed to happen a lot .. why mention it if it wasn't relevant .. in some ways it would spoil the case the person was trying to make I think by putting any relevant info, if there was any which there didn't seem to be, amongst a load of information that wasn't so it'd get kind of lost there.
And going on saying that surely anyone trying to get through would be more specific .. well, you'd think so wouldn't you.
But .. maybe that is just the way it is.
Because that .. would give the game away .. apparently much the same as it is in science in some ways.
It is very confusing and this is why the little voice in my head will keep on going .. "surely not" when on another level I think that surely when something has been repeated often enough it'd be silly not to take notice and if in taking notice you realise that it'd be silly to reject things .. I mean really logically ...
I was reading a little bit in a book yesterday .. didn't buy it so I can't look it up .. but it was about things that scientists believed that couldn't be proven .. where someone said much the same .. if it keeps on happening you can't just dismiss it .. I'll add there comes a point where can seem more farcical to dismiss it than to go towards accepting it .. or, eventually, after a long while, accepting it on some level or other .. though still wishing that it can be proven .. when maybe there isn't a way that it can except theoretically after a long time and many happenings.
I just don't know.
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